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My Secret, Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

By Nagi Maehashi
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Published11 Sep '20 Updated11 May '25
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Unlike traditional buttercream, this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting is silky smooth, much fluffier and far less sweet. The texture is closer to whipped cream, but unlike cream, this Frosting is stable for days. It pipes like a dream, as featured in Vanilla Cupcakes, and is straightforward to make.

Made without icing sugar / powdered sugar, this is actually an old fashioned frosting called “Ermine Frosting”. If you’ve never heard of it before, the ingredients and method will intrigue you!

Close up piping Fluffy Vanilla Frosting onto Vanilla Cupcake

SNAPSHOT: My Secret Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Texture: Light and fluffy. Sits between buttercream and whipped cream, but more towards lightness of whipped cream. 100% smooth.

Sweetness and richness: Much less sweet than buttercream with 60% less sugar. In reality it is quite rich because it uses 225g/2 sticks of butter but it doesn’t taste rich because of the very fluffy, whipped cream-like texture.

Uses: Piped or spread onto cakes and cupcakes, or used in place of cream to dollop onto or on the side.

How it sets: At room temperature, it’s soft and fluffy but firm enough to be piped into tall swirls. In the fridge, it will set and become firmer, but not hard like butter. This frosting does not get a crust.

Storage: Keep covered in airtight container or cake dome. On counter on mild days up to about 22°C/71°F. Refrigerate on warmer days that makes butter melt.

Best served at: room temperature. If too cold, the frosting is firmer than ideal.

My secret Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

I call this my “secret” Vanilla Frosting because it’s not a widely known type of frosting and people are always flabbergasted when I tell them how it’s made using butter, milk, flour and sugar.

It’s my best all-rounder that’s a hit with everyone. Take a classic buttercream, in all its rich, sweet glory, and a lightly sweetened vanilla whipped cream, and this Vanilla Frosting sits squarely in the middle.

But unlike buttercream, it’s 100% silky smooth. And unlike whipped cream which deflates within hours, this Vanilla Frosting will hold a tall piped swirl for days and days.

This looks and pipes like buttercream, but it’s WAY less sweet and rich!

This frosting is actually an old fashioned frosting called Ermine Frosting. Also known as boiled-milk frosting, roux frosting and mock cream, none of these names sound particularly flash nor do they capture the magic of this frosting that has a cult following. Some declare it as the best frosting in the world!

Showing the inside of moist Vanilla cupcakes with vanilla cupcake frosting
Vanilla Cupcake cut open to show plush, tender crumb and how soft this Vanilla Frosting is. Looks like whipped cream but has more structure.

About this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Though the proper name of this frosting is Ermine Frosting, I’m going to continue to call it Fluffy Vanilla Frosting because that’s exactly what it is – and it sounds a lot more flattering than the real name!😂

The method by which it is made will sound highly unusual: hot milk, flour and sugar is cooked on the stove until thickened into a thick custard texture, then once cool it becomes a thoroughly unappetising looking bowl of gluey-jelly which is then whipped into butter.

Making Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

And this is when the ugly duckling transforms into a beautiful swan. Because suddenly, you’re staring into a bowl of what looks like whipped cream. Except….. you haven’t used cream at all. You touch it and know that it’s firm enough to pipe into sky-high swirls. You taste it, and it’s silky smooth. A cross between buttercream and whipped cream!

Bowl of whipped Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

What you need for this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

All you need is butter, flour, milk, sugar and vanilla. Flour?? I hear you query. YES. That is what thickens this into a frosting texture. I promise you will not detect even the faintest bit of flour once finished – not in texture and certainly not taste.

Ingredients in Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

How to make my secret Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

First, we make the roux. It’s just like how we start creamy-sauce savoury foods like Mac and Cheese – except it’s sweet, and we take it much further until it’s very thick.

How to make Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

  1. Milk, sugar, flour – Stir the sugar and flour in a dry saucepan over medium heat – this just toasts the sugar lightly to bring out some flavour. Then slowly pour the warm milk in as you whisk (this avoids lumps)

  2. Cook over medium heat until it thickens in a thick dolloping custard. The range of thickness possible is actually quite broad – I’ve made it way thicker and it still worked perfectly. In fact, the frosting holds its structure longer, and it pipes with sharper, more defined edges even though it is just as fluffy. Just don’t take it off when it’s still watery. 

  3. Scrape it into a bowl (“it” being a roux);

  4. Cover roux with cling wrap, pressing onto the surface to prevent a skin from forming (or use paper if you’re plastic adverse) then very importantly, allow to fully cool otherwise it will melt the butter. It will become like a thick, pasty, thoroughly unappetising jelly and at this stage you will start doubting me. Have faith!

Cooling the roux / making ahead – I usually cool on counter for 20 minutes then refrigerate for 30 minutes or so to speed things up but don’t let it get fridge cold because otherwise it won’t mix together well with the room temp butter (because the temperatures are too different). You can also leave it overnight in the fridge but take it out about 1 hour prior to dechill it and bring to room temperature.

Now, we whip it up like any other frosting.

How to make Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

5. Beat butter until creamy – just for a couple of minutes. We don’t need it to become aerated because we will be whipping the combined mixture like you do whipped cream and at this stage it will fluff up more;

6. Add dollops of the roux, beating as you go. Take about 1 minute to add all the roux in, this will ensure your Frosting stays smooth;

7. Beat, beat, beat – Add vanilla and a pinch of salt for flavour, then beat for another 2 to 3 minutes, just like you’re whipping up a big bowl of cream; and

8. Voila! Your Fluffy Vanilla Frosting is done!

Vanilla cupcakes with buttercream vanilla cupcake frosting

How to use this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Spreading and piping

Spread it onto cakes (like Vanilla Cake) and cupcakes  Vanilla Cupcakes or Chocolate Cupcakes).

Or transfer to a piping bag and pipe sky-high swirls, as pictured throughout this post (Wilton 2D tip).

In fact, this frosting was the traditional frosting used for Red Velvet Cake! It was only in modern times that cream cheese frosting became the frosting of choice for Red Velvet.

You can pipe sky-high mounds of this frosting onto cupcakes, and you won’t find it sickly sweet like with buttercream!

Flavours and colouring

Treat it like your everyday buttercream – this frosting can be tinted and flavoured with concentrated flavouring.

To make it Chocolate flavoured, just whip in 1/4 cup cocoa powder at end. Melted chocolate doesn’t work as well because it weighs it down.

Note: I haven’t tried using fresh citrus like lemon, lime and orange to ensure it doesn’t split.

Storage

The butter in this frosting will require refrigeration if the temperature is warm enough for the butter to start softening – this causes the frosting to droop. I find that up to about 23°/73°F, this frosting is fine out on the counter.

If you are forced to refrigerate, make sure you take cakes out 1 1/2 hours prior to serving and cupcakes out 1 hour prior so they come to room temperature. The frosting firms up in the fridge (because the butter goes hard) which is not very pleasant to eat! You need the frosting to come to room temperature so it’s creamy and soft again. It will soften faster than fridge-cold butter because the fridge-cold frosting is not as hard as butter.

Vanilla Cupcakes with Vanilla Swiss Meringue Buttercream
Vanilla Cupcakes with Fluffy Vanilla Frosting topped with fresh raspberry

So, now you know my secret frosting recipe. 🙂 I’ve been making it for years, relishing in how people who ordinarily shy-away from sky high mounds of frosting have dived into it after I assured them that it’s way less sweet and rich than typical frostings.

Tell me what you think if you try it! – Nagi x


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Close up piping Fluffy Vanilla Frosting onto Vanilla Cupcake

My Secret Less-Sweet, Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Author: Nagi
Prep: 20 minutes mins
Cook: 10 minutes mins
Frosting, Icing, Sweet
Western
4.97 from 352 votes
Servings12
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Recipe video above. This is actually an old fashioned frosting called Ermine Frosting that was traditionally used for Red Velvet Cake. Though not widely known, many consider it far superior to buttercream because its 100% silky smooth, far less sweet and much fluffier – which means you can pipe sky high mounds onto cupcakes and it won't be sickly sweet.
The texture is like whipped cream but slightly more dense. But while whipped cream deflates within hours, this frosting will hold its shape for days!
Don't be turned off by the flour – you absolutely cannot taste it at all.
Makes enough to frost 12 cupcakes generously with tall swirls (pictured), or 24 cupcakes swirled on with a knife, or a two or three layer 20 – 23cm/8-9" cake.

Ingredients

  • 5 tbsp flour , plain/all purpose
  • 1 cup white sugar , regular/granulated (can reduce to 1/2 cup, Note 1)
  • 1 cup milk, warmed using any method , full fat best (but even 0% fat works)
  • 1 1/2 tsp vanilla extract
  • Pinch of salt
  • 225g / 1 cup unsalted butter , softened but not too soft! (Note 3)

Chocolate Frosting option:

  • 1/4 cup cocoa powder, unsweetened (Dutch processed best, if you can)
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Instructions

Thickening Roux:

  • Place flour and sugar in a large saucepan over medium heat. Cook, stirring constantly, for 30 seconds.
  • While whisking constantly, slowly pour the milk in (this ensure it’s lump free).
  • As the milk gets hotter, it will start to thicken – stir constantly so the base doesn’t catch.
  • Cook until the mixture thickens in a thick, dolloping custard – see video for texture. TIP: Thicker texture = thicker frosting texture but won't make the frosting dense, it's still fluffy and spreadable but it just makes it "sturdier" with sharper edges when piped.
  • Remove from heat and scrape into a bowl. Cover with cling wrap, pressing down onto the surface to prevent a skin from forming.
  • Cool completely (I leave on counter for 20 min or so then refrigerate 30 min to speed up but don't let it get chilled, best at room temp to beat into butter). You can leave in fridge overnight but take it out 1 hour prior to using (to dechill – otherwise it won't mix well with softened butter).

Making the Fluffy Frosting:

  • Place butter in a bowl and use either a handheld beater or stand mixer (with whisk attachment) to beat for 3 minutes until it's smooth and changes from yellow to very pale yellow, almost white.
  • Now start whipping in the Thickening Roux. On speed 5 (medium), start adding the thick roux one heaped tablespoon at a time. Take about 1 minute to add it all.
  • Once all added, add vanilla and salt, then whip for 2 to 3 minutes until you can see that it is still enough to hold peaks. Then it's ready to use!

Chocolate flavoured option:

  • Beat in the cocoa powder at the end, just until mixed through.

Frosting cakes and cupcakes:

  • Use it like any other frosting on cakes and cupcakes – either spread it on with a knife or put in a piping bag. You can pipe sky-high mounds and it will hold its form, as pictured on Vanilla Cupcakes in this post.
  • See notes for storage / make ahead.

Recipe Notes:

1. Sugar – caster/superfine ok too. 1 cup sugar yields a sweet frosting but not overly sweet like buttercream which uses about 2.5 – 3 cups equivalent. Can reduce to as little as 1/2 cup – then this really does taste like a lightly sweetened whipped cream!
 2. Whiteness – it will depend on the colour of your butter. Economical butter tends to be more yellow so the frosting will have an off white colour. European butters (such as Lurpak) are paler so the frosting will be closer to white. The butter whipping stage will lighten the colour of the butter.
Whitening – if you really want pure white, you can purchase a frosting whitener like this one from Wilton and also get clear imitation vanilla essence but the flavour isn’t as good and pure as vanilla extract.
The other trick is to add tiny drops of blue or purple into the frosting. These colours are opposite yellow on the colour wheel so they will offset the yellow tinge. For liquid colouring, use a tiny drop at a time. For gel (more intense), dip a toothpick in and wipe onto the frosting surface.
Frosting can also be tinted – it’s like a really fluffy buttercream, so anything you can do to colour / flavour buttercream, you can do with this frosting!
3. Softened Butter – this is butter that is at 17°C/63°F, which is cooler than you might expect! It should be soft enough that it is pliable so when you poke it, it leaves an indent. But still cool enough so that you don’t end up with shiny grease your your finger.
If your butter gets too soft, the frosting will be too sloppy, the same problem you’d run into with any butter based frosting like buttercream frosting.
4. Storage & make ahead:
  • This frosting is best used straight after making. 
  • On cooler days (22C/71F or so), frosted cakes, cupcakes etc can stay out on the counter.
  • On warmer days, it will need to be refrigerated – the butter is what will make the frosting droop. Take out of fridge 1 – 1.5 hrs before serving to bring so the frosting can soften (it firms up in the fridge due to the butter).
  • The flour milk roux can be made the day before and refrigerated overnight, but then take it out of the fridge 1 hour prior to take the chill out of it, you want it at room temperature.
  • Freezing – up to 3 months, thaw overnight in the fridge
5. Recipe source: I cannot remember where I first obtained this recipe (it was over 10 years ago) but I cross checked my usual recipe resources before publishing it and this recipe uses the same quantities as the New York Times Ermine Frosting, but a slightly different method. (Note: that’s a paid resource though you can view limited pages for free)
6. Nutrition assuming 12 servings (as pictured in post – tall swirls!). Frosting only.

Nutrition Information:

Calories: 224cal (11%)Carbohydrates: 20g (7%)Protein: 1g (2%)Fat: 16g (25%)Saturated Fat: 10g (63%)Cholesterol: 42mg (14%)Sodium: 11mgPotassium: 35mg (1%)Fiber: 1g (4%)Sugar: 18g (20%)Vitamin A: 502IU (10%)Calcium: 27mg (3%)Iron: 1mg (6%)
Keywords: Boiled Milk Frosting, Ermine Frosting, Fluffy Vanilla Frosting, Smooth Frosting
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1,323 Comments

  1. Emm says

    June 10, 2022 at 4:33 pm

    5 stars
    Nagi, thank you for sharing this! Your detailed description was the best and gave me confidence to conquer this recipe (though it is, in fact, quite a simple beast!)

    Just want to note that it works beautifully with arrowroot starch or potato starch (not flour), or a half-half mixture of both, to substitute the flour for a gluten free frosting.

    Perfection!

    Reply
    • Rachel says

      July 19, 2022 at 3:33 am

      Hi Emm,
      Just curious as to why you chose to use these flours as gf substitutes vs using gf flour? Just conscious of the prices of these other flours vs gf flour esp as i rarely use them.

      Thank you!

      Reply
  2. Louisa says

    June 10, 2022 at 5:58 am

    5 stars
    This is my go to cupcake frosting. Its fantastic. I cant stand normal buttercream any more!

    Reply
  3. Beata says

    June 9, 2022 at 10:53 pm

    5 stars
    Dear Nagi, I like this frosting because its creamy, silky texture and because it holds well the piped form, and I made it many times with a halfed quantity of sugar. (And yes, before trying it, I didn’t beleive in).
    Now a sweet young lady asked me to prepare her a lemon birthday cake, so I have 2 questions: 1. Did you ever tried to add vegetable butter (margarine) instead of butter? If yes, in the same proportion?(She can eat only diary free things) 2. I planned to add lemon zeste, some lemon juice, and in parallel raise a little bit the amount of flour. Do you think it will work? Thank you in advance. Beata

    Reply
  4. Kaitlyn P says

    June 9, 2022 at 6:10 am

    Hi! I would like to try this frosting for a 3 layer round cake I am making. If I make and decorate the cake 2 days beforehand (the cake will have small fondant decorations on it once frosted), will it hold up well in a airtight container in the fridge for those 2 days? I’m just worried about either the frosting cracking or fondant decorations falling off. I also may be able to put the fondant decorations on the day before if needed. Thanks so much!

    Reply
    • Nancy says

      July 21, 2022 at 2:40 am

      I have used this recipe several times. The decorations stay on. I place the cake in a cake box and put it in the fridge decoration and all.
      Sometimes it stays in the fridge for a day or 2 depending on when it’s required. Leave it out for an hour or so at room temperature before use.

      Reply
  5. Mona says

    June 8, 2022 at 1:19 pm

    5 stars
    This was delicious! I wonder if I swapped out blueberry syrup for the milk, if I could make blueberry frosting using this method?

    Reply
  6. Gaya says

    June 4, 2022 at 1:47 pm

    5 stars
    Just made it. Came out perfect. Perfect amount of sweetness. Love it. Thank you sooooo much

    Reply
  7. Shelley says

    June 3, 2022 at 11:53 pm

    How does this icing compare to American buttercream for crumb coating and icing cakes? I plan to use this recipe tomorrow for my F-I-L’s 80 birthday party on strawberry cupcakes because he asked me to add less sugar to my icing. But I just thought I may use it on the 8 in cake too if it would work.

    Reply
  8. Mona says

    June 3, 2022 at 12:16 am

    5 stars
    This is my favorite frosting recipe! The sweetness is just right.
    I never made this into a choc frosting, and I’d like to add some coffee to intensify the flavor. What’s the best way to do that?

    Reply
  9. Alex says

    June 2, 2022 at 3:58 am

    Hello, I was wondering if this has a buttery taste? I don’t enjoy butter much.

    Reply
  10. Anne Marie says

    June 1, 2022 at 5:39 am

    Do you think a gluten free flour like Crusteaz gluten free all purpose flour would substitute okay?

    Reply
  11. Glo Z says

    June 1, 2022 at 12:07 am

    Will your recipe work if I sub cream cheese for the butter?
    I can’t wait to try this recipe!

    Reply
    • CLAIRE WOOD says

      June 17, 2022 at 12:23 am

      5 stars
      There is a version that is half and half cream cheese & butter. I made it for a carrot cake; it was very runny but I think it was because the roux was not cool enough; I did not start it early enough. It was very tasty though. My advice: give it a try for just an at home dessert and see how it works. Be sure everything is cold though. I am going to try this again to see if I can get it right!!! It was on Pinterest, so I think it must work

      Reply
  12. CLAIRE WOOD says

    May 31, 2022 at 12:08 pm

    I first tasted this frosting way back in 1968! It was on a coconut cake with crushed pineapple and coconut in the filling. I love it!!! (it is also fun to make)
    Trivia: this is the original frosting for Red Velvet Cake. Beats the heck out of Cream cheese!

    Reply
    • Stacy says

      June 14, 2022 at 12:46 pm

      My aunt has always made her red velvet with this frosting and whenever I have it with cream cheese frosting I just think “nope. That doesn’t taste right!”

      Reply
  13. Michelle says

    May 31, 2022 at 4:42 am

    This is a perfect recipe. I’ve been looking for something with this exact taste, so I’m very excited to have found this! The frosting has an amazing buttery vanilla flavour, without being overwhelmingly sweet.

    I love this recipe because it worked perfectly for me when I used oat milk, and it only requires 1 cup of sugar (instead of 3 or 4, which is often required for other types of frosting).

    Thank you, Nagi – I’ve tried a few of your recipes so far, and they’re always wonderful (especially this, and the butter chicken one)!

    Reply
  14. Brandi O says

    May 30, 2022 at 2:35 am

    This recipe was a big hit at my niece’s party. I use almond milk instead of milk to make it non dairy because she was lactose. She LOVED it! and so did her guests. thank you so much

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      May 30, 2022 at 1:55 pm

      Yes the ermine frosting is one that can be adaptable to alternative milks which is great. It’s not exactly the same but it’s still pretty good! N x

      Reply
  15. Karen says

    May 30, 2022 at 2:30 am

    5 stars
    My mom had a similar recipe which I loved, but mine would turn out lumpy. This recipe was incredibly smooth, fluffy and not too sweet for the cake lovers who prefer their frosting a bit more buttery tasting. For someone who constantly scrapes off the sugary buttercream frosting on her cake, this will be the only frosting recipe I need to make!

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      May 30, 2022 at 1:55 pm

      I totally get that! Buttercream can be sooooo overly sweet! This one is the perfect balance! N x

      Reply
  16. Patty says

    May 29, 2022 at 7:43 am

    Hi, I made this and I liked how came out. I did notice a flour Taste
    A bit. Could I add a little more sugar to this to make it a little bit sweeter. It really looked like whipped cream.

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      May 30, 2022 at 2:23 pm

      You just need to cook the roux for a few more minutes Patty – that will get rid of any floury flavour. If you add more sugar to the roux, you might make it too liquid. N x

      Reply
  17. Chris says

    May 26, 2022 at 11:23 am

    My grandmother used to make a frosting like this, but I never got the recipe! So excited to see this here. It’s delicious.

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      May 27, 2022 at 2:10 pm

      It’s one of those old fashioned classic recipes that people just love! N x

      Reply
  18. Charlotte says

    May 26, 2022 at 5:24 am

    Can you use salted butter or does it need to be unsalted?

    Thank you

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      May 26, 2022 at 7:04 am

      Unsalted is preferable but you could use salted if necessary! N x

      Reply
  19. Renae says

    May 25, 2022 at 7:32 pm

    Hi there!
    Love all your recipes so much. I’ve just made this and it is beautiful! However I need it to pipe onto a cake and I think I’ve over whipped as it’s more like a mousse consistency. Any tips? I’ve also frozen it (as is) to use in a few days.

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      May 26, 2022 at 7:29 am

      Hi Renae – it is a very light airy frosting – it you overbeat it it gets gummy so your sounds perfect! If you have frozen it though, you cannot whip it again or it will split. You need to use it straight out of the bag and it will get some condensation when thawing. N x

      Reply
  20. Deb says

    May 24, 2022 at 6:03 am

    Can you freeze cupcakes frosted in this frosting? If so, do they have to be wrapped individually in plastic or can they just be in one airtight container?

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      May 24, 2022 at 11:33 am

      Yes you can but the frosting will condense a bit on warming up so might have some water droplets on it – you can store them all in one airtight container! N x

      Reply
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