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My Secret, Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

By Nagi Maehashi
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Published11 Sep '20 Updated11 May '25
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Unlike traditional buttercream, this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting is silky smooth, much fluffier and far less sweet. The texture is closer to whipped cream, but unlike cream, this Frosting is stable for days. It pipes like a dream, as featured in Vanilla Cupcakes, and is straightforward to make.

Made without icing sugar / powdered sugar, this is actually an old fashioned frosting called “Ermine Frosting”. If you’ve never heard of it before, the ingredients and method will intrigue you!

Close up piping Fluffy Vanilla Frosting onto Vanilla Cupcake

SNAPSHOT: My Secret Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Texture: Light and fluffy. Sits between buttercream and whipped cream, but more towards lightness of whipped cream. 100% smooth.

Sweetness and richness: Much less sweet than buttercream with 60% less sugar. In reality it is quite rich because it uses 225g/2 sticks of butter but it doesn’t taste rich because of the very fluffy, whipped cream-like texture.

Uses: Piped or spread onto cakes and cupcakes, or used in place of cream to dollop onto or on the side.

How it sets: At room temperature, it’s soft and fluffy but firm enough to be piped into tall swirls. In the fridge, it will set and become firmer, but not hard like butter. This frosting does not get a crust.

Storage: Keep covered in airtight container or cake dome. On counter on mild days up to about 22°C/71°F. Refrigerate on warmer days that makes butter melt.

Best served at: room temperature. If too cold, the frosting is firmer than ideal.

My secret Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

I call this my “secret” Vanilla Frosting because it’s not a widely known type of frosting and people are always flabbergasted when I tell them how it’s made using butter, milk, flour and sugar.

It’s my best all-rounder that’s a hit with everyone. Take a classic buttercream, in all its rich, sweet glory, and a lightly sweetened vanilla whipped cream, and this Vanilla Frosting sits squarely in the middle.

But unlike buttercream, it’s 100% silky smooth. And unlike whipped cream which deflates within hours, this Vanilla Frosting will hold a tall piped swirl for days and days.

This looks and pipes like buttercream, but it’s WAY less sweet and rich!

This frosting is actually an old fashioned frosting called Ermine Frosting. Also known as boiled-milk frosting, roux frosting and mock cream, none of these names sound particularly flash nor do they capture the magic of this frosting that has a cult following. Some declare it as the best frosting in the world!

Showing the inside of moist Vanilla cupcakes with vanilla cupcake frosting
Vanilla Cupcake cut open to show plush, tender crumb and how soft this Vanilla Frosting is. Looks like whipped cream but has more structure.

About this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Though the proper name of this frosting is Ermine Frosting, I’m going to continue to call it Fluffy Vanilla Frosting because that’s exactly what it is – and it sounds a lot more flattering than the real name!😂

The method by which it is made will sound highly unusual: hot milk, flour and sugar is cooked on the stove until thickened into a thick custard texture, then once cool it becomes a thoroughly unappetising looking bowl of gluey-jelly which is then whipped into butter.

Making Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

And this is when the ugly duckling transforms into a beautiful swan. Because suddenly, you’re staring into a bowl of what looks like whipped cream. Except….. you haven’t used cream at all. You touch it and know that it’s firm enough to pipe into sky-high swirls. You taste it, and it’s silky smooth. A cross between buttercream and whipped cream!

Bowl of whipped Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

What you need for this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

All you need is butter, flour, milk, sugar and vanilla. Flour?? I hear you query. YES. That is what thickens this into a frosting texture. I promise you will not detect even the faintest bit of flour once finished – not in texture and certainly not taste.

Ingredients in Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

How to make my secret Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

First, we make the roux. It’s just like how we start creamy-sauce savoury foods like Mac and Cheese – except it’s sweet, and we take it much further until it’s very thick.

How to make Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

  1. Milk, sugar, flour – Stir the sugar and flour in a dry saucepan over medium heat – this just toasts the sugar lightly to bring out some flavour. Then slowly pour the warm milk in as you whisk (this avoids lumps)

  2. Cook over medium heat until it thickens in a thick dolloping custard. The range of thickness possible is actually quite broad – I’ve made it way thicker and it still worked perfectly. In fact, the frosting holds its structure longer, and it pipes with sharper, more defined edges even though it is just as fluffy. Just don’t take it off when it’s still watery. 

  3. Scrape it into a bowl (“it” being a roux);

  4. Cover roux with cling wrap, pressing onto the surface to prevent a skin from forming (or use paper if you’re plastic adverse) then very importantly, allow to fully cool otherwise it will melt the butter. It will become like a thick, pasty, thoroughly unappetising jelly and at this stage you will start doubting me. Have faith!

Cooling the roux / making ahead – I usually cool on counter for 20 minutes then refrigerate for 30 minutes or so to speed things up but don’t let it get fridge cold because otherwise it won’t mix together well with the room temp butter (because the temperatures are too different). You can also leave it overnight in the fridge but take it out about 1 hour prior to dechill it and bring to room temperature.

Now, we whip it up like any other frosting.

How to make Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

5. Beat butter until creamy – just for a couple of minutes. We don’t need it to become aerated because we will be whipping the combined mixture like you do whipped cream and at this stage it will fluff up more;

6. Add dollops of the roux, beating as you go. Take about 1 minute to add all the roux in, this will ensure your Frosting stays smooth;

7. Beat, beat, beat – Add vanilla and a pinch of salt for flavour, then beat for another 2 to 3 minutes, just like you’re whipping up a big bowl of cream; and

8. Voila! Your Fluffy Vanilla Frosting is done!

Vanilla cupcakes with buttercream vanilla cupcake frosting

How to use this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Spreading and piping

Spread it onto cakes (like Vanilla Cake) and cupcakes  Vanilla Cupcakes or Chocolate Cupcakes).

Or transfer to a piping bag and pipe sky-high swirls, as pictured throughout this post (Wilton 2D tip).

In fact, this frosting was the traditional frosting used for Red Velvet Cake! It was only in modern times that cream cheese frosting became the frosting of choice for Red Velvet.

You can pipe sky-high mounds of this frosting onto cupcakes, and you won’t find it sickly sweet like with buttercream!

Flavours and colouring

Treat it like your everyday buttercream – this frosting can be tinted and flavoured with concentrated flavouring.

To make it Chocolate flavoured, just whip in 1/4 cup cocoa powder at end. Melted chocolate doesn’t work as well because it weighs it down.

Note: I haven’t tried using fresh citrus like lemon, lime and orange to ensure it doesn’t split.

Storage

The butter in this frosting will require refrigeration if the temperature is warm enough for the butter to start softening – this causes the frosting to droop. I find that up to about 23°/73°F, this frosting is fine out on the counter.

If you are forced to refrigerate, make sure you take cakes out 1 1/2 hours prior to serving and cupcakes out 1 hour prior so they come to room temperature. The frosting firms up in the fridge (because the butter goes hard) which is not very pleasant to eat! You need the frosting to come to room temperature so it’s creamy and soft again. It will soften faster than fridge-cold butter because the fridge-cold frosting is not as hard as butter.

Vanilla Cupcakes with Vanilla Swiss Meringue Buttercream
Vanilla Cupcakes with Fluffy Vanilla Frosting topped with fresh raspberry

So, now you know my secret frosting recipe. 🙂 I’ve been making it for years, relishing in how people who ordinarily shy-away from sky high mounds of frosting have dived into it after I assured them that it’s way less sweet and rich than typical frostings.

Tell me what you think if you try it! – Nagi x


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Close up piping Fluffy Vanilla Frosting onto Vanilla Cupcake

My Secret Less-Sweet, Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Author: Nagi
Prep: 20 minutes mins
Cook: 10 minutes mins
Frosting, Icing, Sweet
Western
4.97 from 353 votes
Servings12
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Recipe video above. This is actually an old fashioned frosting called Ermine Frosting that was traditionally used for Red Velvet Cake. Though not widely known, many consider it far superior to buttercream because its 100% silky smooth, far less sweet and much fluffier – which means you can pipe sky high mounds onto cupcakes and it won't be sickly sweet.
The texture is like whipped cream but slightly more dense. But while whipped cream deflates within hours, this frosting will hold its shape for days!
Don't be turned off by the flour – you absolutely cannot taste it at all.
Makes enough to frost 12 cupcakes generously with tall swirls (pictured), or 24 cupcakes swirled on with a knife, or a two or three layer 20 – 23cm/8-9" cake.

Ingredients

  • 5 tbsp flour , plain/all purpose
  • 1 cup white sugar , regular/granulated (can reduce to 1/2 cup, Note 1)
  • 1 cup milk, warmed using any method , full fat best (but even 0% fat works)
  • 1 1/2 tsp vanilla extract
  • Pinch of salt
  • 225g / 1 cup unsalted butter , softened but not too soft! (Note 3)

Chocolate Frosting option:

  • 1/4 cup cocoa powder, unsweetened (Dutch processed best, if you can)
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Instructions

Thickening Roux:

  • Place flour and sugar in a large saucepan over medium heat. Cook, stirring constantly, for 30 seconds.
  • While whisking constantly, slowly pour the milk in (this ensure it’s lump free).
  • As the milk gets hotter, it will start to thicken – stir constantly so the base doesn’t catch.
  • Cook until the mixture thickens in a thick, dolloping custard – see video for texture. TIP: Thicker texture = thicker frosting texture but won't make the frosting dense, it's still fluffy and spreadable but it just makes it "sturdier" with sharper edges when piped.
  • Remove from heat and scrape into a bowl. Cover with cling wrap, pressing down onto the surface to prevent a skin from forming.
  • Cool completely (I leave on counter for 20 min or so then refrigerate 30 min to speed up but don't let it get chilled, best at room temp to beat into butter). You can leave in fridge overnight but take it out 1 hour prior to using (to dechill – otherwise it won't mix well with softened butter).

Making the Fluffy Frosting:

  • Place butter in a bowl and use either a handheld beater or stand mixer (with whisk attachment) to beat for 3 minutes until it's smooth and changes from yellow to very pale yellow, almost white.
  • Now start whipping in the Thickening Roux. On speed 5 (medium), start adding the thick roux one heaped tablespoon at a time. Take about 1 minute to add it all.
  • Once all added, add vanilla and salt, then whip for 2 to 3 minutes until you can see that it is still enough to hold peaks. Then it's ready to use!

Chocolate flavoured option:

  • Beat in the cocoa powder at the end, just until mixed through.

Frosting cakes and cupcakes:

  • Use it like any other frosting on cakes and cupcakes – either spread it on with a knife or put in a piping bag. You can pipe sky-high mounds and it will hold its form, as pictured on Vanilla Cupcakes in this post.
  • See notes for storage / make ahead.

Recipe Notes:

1. Sugar – caster/superfine ok too. 1 cup sugar yields a sweet frosting but not overly sweet like buttercream which uses about 2.5 – 3 cups equivalent. Can reduce to as little as 1/2 cup – then this really does taste like a lightly sweetened whipped cream!
 2. Whiteness – it will depend on the colour of your butter. Economical butter tends to be more yellow so the frosting will have an off white colour. European butters (such as Lurpak) are paler so the frosting will be closer to white. The butter whipping stage will lighten the colour of the butter.
Whitening – if you really want pure white, you can purchase a frosting whitener like this one from Wilton and also get clear imitation vanilla essence but the flavour isn’t as good and pure as vanilla extract.
The other trick is to add tiny drops of blue or purple into the frosting. These colours are opposite yellow on the colour wheel so they will offset the yellow tinge. For liquid colouring, use a tiny drop at a time. For gel (more intense), dip a toothpick in and wipe onto the frosting surface.
Frosting can also be tinted – it’s like a really fluffy buttercream, so anything you can do to colour / flavour buttercream, you can do with this frosting!
3. Softened Butter – this is butter that is at 17°C/63°F, which is cooler than you might expect! It should be soft enough that it is pliable so when you poke it, it leaves an indent. But still cool enough so that you don’t end up with shiny grease your your finger.
If your butter gets too soft, the frosting will be too sloppy, the same problem you’d run into with any butter based frosting like buttercream frosting.
4. Storage & make ahead:
  • This frosting is best used straight after making. 
  • On cooler days (22C/71F or so), frosted cakes, cupcakes etc can stay out on the counter.
  • On warmer days, it will need to be refrigerated – the butter is what will make the frosting droop. Take out of fridge 1 – 1.5 hrs before serving to bring so the frosting can soften (it firms up in the fridge due to the butter).
  • The flour milk roux can be made the day before and refrigerated overnight, but then take it out of the fridge 1 hour prior to take the chill out of it, you want it at room temperature.
  • Freezing – up to 3 months, thaw overnight in the fridge
5. Recipe source: I cannot remember where I first obtained this recipe (it was over 10 years ago) but I cross checked my usual recipe resources before publishing it and this recipe uses the same quantities as the New York Times Ermine Frosting, but a slightly different method. (Note: that’s a paid resource though you can view limited pages for free)
6. Nutrition assuming 12 servings (as pictured in post – tall swirls!). Frosting only.

Nutrition Information:

Calories: 224cal (11%)Carbohydrates: 20g (7%)Protein: 1g (2%)Fat: 16g (25%)Saturated Fat: 10g (63%)Cholesterol: 42mg (14%)Sodium: 11mgPotassium: 35mg (1%)Fiber: 1g (4%)Sugar: 18g (20%)Vitamin A: 502IU (10%)Calcium: 27mg (3%)Iron: 1mg (6%)
Keywords: Boiled Milk Frosting, Ermine Frosting, Fluffy Vanilla Frosting, Smooth Frosting
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1,324 Comments

  1. Dina says

    October 29, 2021 at 12:42 pm

    Hi there this looks amazing. Do you think it would work with gluten free flour?

    Reply
    • Meaghan says

      November 20, 2021 at 11:15 pm

      I’ve made this with plain gluten free flour a number of times and it’s always worked 💜 it is my go to icing recipe now

      Reply
    • Sunny says

      November 20, 2021 at 4:20 pm

      I tried it with tapioca flour/starch, it worked great. I also used cashew milk. And I added the cacao powder and used 1/2 cup Mexican cane sugar and 1/4 cup erythritol/monk fruit. It was plenty sweet still for me, I think I’ll do 1/4 sugar and 1/4 monk fruit next time. Great recipe and concept!

      Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 30, 2021 at 8:16 am

      No, sorry Dina it doesn’t. N x

      Reply
      • johnnie says

        November 1, 2021 at 4:04 pm

        cassava, white rice, potato starch, tapioca -there gots to be a way?

        Reply
  2. jessica says

    October 29, 2021 at 2:59 am

    5 stars
    This is seriously the best vanilla frosting recipe. I have been trying out several and stopped after this one. My husband said, “this is the best one you have ever made.” Needless to say, it’s a keeper! Thank you for sharing

    Reply
  3. Sehrish Owais says

    October 27, 2021 at 6:37 pm

    Hi Nagi,
    I am finally making your this icing for vanilla cupcakes, which we just loved everytime I made.
    But I have to place fondant topper on icing swirls. Wpuld you recommend that?

    Reply
  4. Colleen says

    October 27, 2021 at 9:26 am

    5 stars
    I love the taste of this recipe because it’s not so sweet. But when I made it, the consistency of mine turned out more soft(liquidy) and not fluffy. What did I do wrong? And what should I do to fix it? Thank you!

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 27, 2021 at 3:53 pm

      It’s most likely your butter temperature…see my notes about optimal temp and be sure the roux is fully cooled before you combine them. N x

      Reply
  5. Shaleen says

    October 26, 2021 at 11:36 am

    Holy smokes! That is the strangest recipe…but so cool! I was a skeptic at first because it first tasted like condensed milk while at room temperature.. After cooled off and added to chocolate cake and mousse my sister said that I should have added more lol.. I am so using again! I also love that it is like a sturdy whipped cream. I did add some powdered sugar at the end since my family likes more sweet.
    Thanks again!

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 27, 2021 at 4:58 pm

      So glad you enjoyed it Shaleen! N x

      Reply
  6. Ally says

    October 26, 2021 at 11:22 am

    Hi Nagi,

    If I want to make this frosting chocolate flavored, do you have a recommended method?

    Thanks!
    Ally

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 26, 2021 at 1:39 pm

      Hi Ally…I tested it adding 2 Tablespoons sifted cocoa at the end and it worked well. N x

      Reply
  7. S Thomas says

    October 25, 2021 at 6:33 pm

    5 stars
    Nagi you are honestly the best! This is super helpful. I really appreciate you taking the time to reply when you’re so busy. Thank you thank you thank you! X

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 26, 2021 at 11:15 am

      My pleasure! N x

      Reply
  8. Nekeisha Brown says

    October 25, 2021 at 3:24 am

    5 stars
    Honestly, 10/10. I have always made icing with icing sugar and it never really turned out great for me, but THIS!! I will never make icing another way again, ever. Thank you so much for this amazing recipe.

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 26, 2021 at 11:15 am

      You are welcome! N x

      Reply
  9. S Thomas says

    October 24, 2021 at 6:09 pm

    5 stars
    Nagi this was so delicious! I added in the cocoa powder and it was to die for… goodbye gritty buttercream frosting forever!

    One question – will this frosting be stable enough for a three tiered round cake (8″)? It was so soft and creamy, seems like the cake layers may just slide around a bit? Or perhaps I’m overthinking it and could let it set a bit in the fridge to help stabilise it all. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 25, 2021 at 5:23 pm

      YES! This frosting is great for piping and for cakes but if its very hot where you are you will need to keep it in the fridge. A good tip is to refrigerate your cake layers tightly wrapped the unwrap before frosting so that the frosting sets easily when you stack the layers. There are more tips and details on frosting cakes here: https://salesdock.info/smooth-frosting-or-ganache-finish-on-cakes/%3C/a%3E Good luck! N x

      Reply
  10. Jana says

    October 24, 2021 at 12:44 pm

    Have you ever used this frosting in macarons?

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 26, 2021 at 11:14 am

      No but I think it would be nice! N x

      Reply
  11. Donna J Fano says

    October 21, 2021 at 10:16 pm

    A great icing recipe. I love it that is it not so sweet like buttercream Icing (ugh!) I made it for our school’s anniversary. As I put the batches (4 times the recipe) together in large container, it took longer to pipe it as it was hard after being in the fridge so make sure it has 3 hours to warm up. Thanks for sharing the recipe, Nagi!

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 22, 2021 at 9:20 am

      So glad you enjoyed it Donna! N x

      Reply
  12. Shay Kunstmann says

    October 20, 2021 at 5:55 pm

    Looks delicious! Can I substitute the caster sugar with powdered palm sugar?

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 26, 2021 at 11:14 am

      Hi Shay…I am not certain that would work sorry! N x

      Reply
  13. Mary says

    October 18, 2021 at 12:52 pm

    Made this for my cake. My husband loved it but said he could taste the butter. I tasted it without the cake and it seemed a little greasy. What did I do wrong?

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 20, 2021 at 10:01 am

      Be sure you beat it exactly the times specified…otherwise the texture changes. The butter flavour really depends on the brand of butter you use…choose one that has a buttery flavour you like. N x

      Reply
  14. Monya says

    October 18, 2021 at 1:35 am

    Well I guess I should have read the comments before I doubled the batch! Texture and taste were fine but it looked grainy (even though it wasn’t). The other problem I had was it being too soft and greasy looking. Any ideas what may have happened??

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 20, 2021 at 10:22 am

      With a double batch you are beating it too long which changes the texture…you can make a double of the base but need to beat the butter in in two separate batches sticking to the times as written to be sure the texture is right. Thanks! N x

      Reply
      • Monya says

        October 21, 2021 at 2:08 am

        Thank you! I researched so many recipes until I found yours and with all the measurements in my head I totally shorted the butter. I doubled the recipe how you mentioned and it came out perfect! So many compliments on it!!

        Reply
  15. Cams says

    October 18, 2021 at 12:08 am

    5 stars
    So easy and delicious. I made it three times already, and it was perfect each time. Love the silky texture and how it’s less sweet vs traditional frosting.

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 20, 2021 at 10:23 am

      Thanks! N x

      Reply
  16. Lydia says

    October 16, 2021 at 11:04 am

    5 stars
    This recipe is great. Easy, delicious, and not too sweet – just perfect!

    I was wondering if I can easily double the recipe, or will two batches need to be cooked and mixed separately?
    Thanks so much 🙂

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 16, 2021 at 2:22 pm

      Hi Lydia, you can make a double batch of the roux then split it in half and beat the batches separately after it cools. Beating a double in one bowl is too big and will ruin the texture. N x

      Reply
      • Lydia says

        October 16, 2021 at 2:47 pm

        That’s wonderful! Thank you very much ^.^

        Reply
  17. Laura says

    October 15, 2021 at 4:01 pm

    5 stars
    I was sceptical..who puts flour in icing? But once again Nagi you put my scepticism to shame. This is absolutely brilliant. Thank you for sharing your tricks!

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 16, 2021 at 9:23 am

      I know! Seems weird but SOOOO good! N x

      Reply
  18. sam says

    October 15, 2021 at 7:12 am

    what do you mean by warmed milk? should i just put some milk in the microwave? and how warm should it be?

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 26, 2021 at 11:17 am

      Hi Sam…just pop it in the microwave for 1 minute or heat in a pan until it’s warm but not too hot. You just don’t want cold milk as it will seize up. N x

      Reply
  19. Lizzy says

    October 13, 2021 at 4:44 pm

    I love love love this recipe. I also thought that if anyone was coming to the comments like I was wondering if it was possible to make using vegan substitutes it works perfectly. I used oat milk and then a vegan butter. The roux came to quite a different consistency (more of a smooth goopy one) than when using cows milk and did take a little longer to cook so the sugar did begin to caramelise but in the end it still worked out fabulous

    Reply
    • Diana says

      October 26, 2021 at 9:48 am

      I used Chobani creamy oatmilk and earth balance vegan butter and it turned out perfect

      Reply
  20. Lynn says

    October 13, 2021 at 8:05 am

    I want to try this on a birthday cake for a 6yr old. She has requested large rainbow coloured rosettes up the sides of the cake. Can anyone tell me if this frosting is sturdy enough to hold vertical piping on the side of a cake?

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      October 13, 2021 at 11:58 am

      Hi Lynn..this frosting holds it’s shape well when piped but it stays quite soft to eat so I don’t know if it would hold up on vertical piping as roses as I haven’t tested it. I think it would but cannot guarantee it. N x

      Reply
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